Phoenix Home Inspection: Arizona: Phoenix

Gas Line Sediment Trap Or Escape Hatch?

Here is a great post by Jay Markanich on proper placement of shut off valves.  This is an important thing to look for when purchasing a Phoenix home.

Via Jay Markanich - Virginia Home Inspector (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC):

So, is this a gas line sediment trap or escape hatch?  You decide.

The features list in the house said, "Newly installed HVAC system 2011!"  All true.  And done professionally!

Judging from the duct work the previous system was quite old.  Replacing it was only smart.  And good for my clients!

The sediment trap is the longer section of black iron gas tubing that is sticking straight down.

It has been called by various names, and there are those who split hairs and say that only the term "sediment trap" is correct.  But still, it is what it is.

The purpose is just as its name says.  Historically, when natural gas was first pumped into houses it came with sediment and moisture.  That could all get into and damage the appliance using the gas.

So they devised a trap, which you see to the left, to capture that as it would fall harmlessly into the bottom of the lowest section.  In the "olden days" they used to remove that section of pipe periodically to dump out the trapped sediment.  The extended pipe should be 3" minimum.

Fine.  Today our gas is cleaner and drier and there are those who say that the traps may not be necessary.  But still, most installation practices require them. 

I have spoken with plumbers who say they should not be used outdoors or in attics as the moisture trapped inside could freeze and cause the pipe to burst or move the nipple at the bottom causing a leak.  But still, most codes require them.  When I don't see a sediment trap present I note it for my client.

You can see the new piping here, new condensate line, new cables, new switch servicing the new humidifier and new condensate pump - new, new, new!  They did it right.

But wait!  What's wrong here?  This is a new system, installed by a professional because they proudly placed their company sticker, with installation date, onto the unit.  It also says, "Please call US to answer any future questions or to satisfy any future needs!"

So, again, what's wrong here?

Looking closely, as a home inspector is supposed to do, you might notice that the gas shut-off valve is between the sediment trap and the furnace!

If someone wanted to remove any debris from the sediment trap (and I have spoken with many, many plumbers who say there is no debris in modern times, but I digress) and dutifully shut off the gas valve before beginning, gas would still escape from the sediment trap tubing!

Obviously there is a way around this still.  The main gas line valve on the indoor manifold, or the gas meter itself, could be turned off to safely remove the sediment trap.  But that would turn off the gas to other appliances, and any pilot lights in the house, such as the water heater, and cause unnecessary work as they would all have to be relit.

The shut-off valve really should have been placed BEFORE the sediment trap.  This current installation might even indicate the valve was not correct from the start as this company mimicked what the previous installation looked like!  But I really don't know.

My recommendation:  when a home inspection is done, it is important to see the whole picture.  A little thing like this might go unnoticed forever, and maybe not even by the professional HVAC company, but it was not unnoticed on this inspection!  And at least it's a simple fix.  I guess that company is going to get called after all!

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia

www.jaymarinspect.com


Stay cool in Phoenix and save $30 per month

Staying cool in Phoenix is no easy task.  If there was a way to do it and save $30 per month would you do it?

Here is a step by step process to make it happen.

  1. ThermostatCheck with your utility company and make sure you are on the best time of use plan possible.  Here are links to the rate plans at APS and SRP. APS Rate Plans  SRP Rate Plans
  2. Install a programable thermostat.  Here is one that Home Depot carries.  1 Week Programmable Thermostat.  This model allows you to program 4 different time periods each day and allows different programing for the weekend.  Most time-of-use plans have weekends and some holidays as non peak.  If you need to set a different program for Saturday than you do on Sunday you will want this model.  If you are not to comfortable with installing the thermostat yourself then call Clint Cluff at Cluff Mechanical 623-332-1350 and tell him I recommended him.
  3. Lastly and most important, set the temperature during the off peak times to 75 degrees.  Set the temperature during the peak times to 81 degrees.  You will notice that during the peak times the air conditioner may not even come on.

If you were running your thermostat at 81 degrees all day and reprogram it as I have suggested you should save around $30 per month.  If you weren't on a time of use plan then you could save even more.

For all your Arizona House Plans and Phoenix Home Inspection needs contact me.

602-326-4061

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How to keep your Phoenix closet toasty warm.

How to keep your Phoenix closet toasty warm.

Many times people use various kinds of space heaters to heat a particular room.  They come in all shapes and sizes.  Most of the time it is the living room or the bedroom, but never the closet.  Here in Phoenix there are maybe one or two months where space heaters are used.  You can open your blinds up and heat up a room very quickly this time of year.  Here is a picture I took with an infrared camera recently at an inspection at a Phoenix home.

Uninsulated Attic Hatch

At first glance you might think that this is just a window without blinds.  It is actually an attic hatch in the closet ceiling.  The attics in Phoenix get very hot.  When there is only a half inch piece of drywall between your house and the attic it is the same as installing a window.

Here is a simple fix to this problem.  Normally builders just provide a piece of fiberglass batt on the back of the drywall.  Once that comes loose from the drywall it never gets put back on.  The simple fix for this is to get 2" thick rigid foam insulation.  Cut it 1/4" smaller than the drywall.  Glue two layers on to the back of the drywall.  Place weatherstripping on top of the trim that the drywall sits on.  This eliminates drafts.

Implement this simple fix and you can eleminate hot closets.

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While inspecting this home yesterday I noticed an anomally.  The attic access hatch was in the utility room.  In the garage there was another one not more than 4 feet away.  This seemed kind of pointless to me.  When I climbed into the attic I found out why.  The framer had blocked out a location for the hatch in the hallway.  The electrician put the light switch and convience outlet near that hatch.  The mechanical contractor oriented the air handler properly for that hatch.  Somewhere along the line someone decided that the hatch shouldn't be in the hallway and put it in the utility room.  This put the hatch at the other end of the air handler.  When someone goes up there to service the airhandler they have to climb over the ducts and reach out 4 feet past the platform to get to the light switch and outlet.  Attic Platform

The decision to move the hatch gained them very little in cosmetic appeal.  The potential for physical harm to anyone working up there far outweighs anything they gained.  As I write this post I can't help but wonder if this was done by the builder or by a previous homeowner.  There was some break marks in the platform plywood.  This suggests that the homeowner broke some of the plywood out to move it to the other end of the platform.

Bad hatch location

What do you think?  Done by builder or homeowner?  Good decision or bad one?

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I came across this quote on a friends facebook page and had to share it.

"What's the difference between an amateur and a professional? It has nothing to do with money. The professional corrects his or her mistakes. The amateur doesn't even know they made one." Darton Drake

Having Bentley Architecture, with all its 3d-modeling, rendering and animation capabilities, a dual monitor cad workstation and a plotter does not make me a professional designer.  Knowing what to do with them does.

Having Home Guage inspection software and lots of tools to inspect homes does not make me a professional home inspector.  Knowing what to do with them does.

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Air conditioning units

 

They even pulled the disconnects out and left them inside the units where the coils where.

 

Air conditioner

 

For all your Arizona House Plans and Phoenix Home Inspection needs contact me.

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DIY Porch Additions Gone Wrong

In this edition of DIY projects gone wrong I will explore porch and carport additions.

When I design a house or an addition to a house I use certain criteria to decide whether I need to use the services of a licensed Structural Engineer.  If the design includes a beam over 20', a ceiling height more than 10' or lateral resistance that cannot meet the prescriptive requirements of the code then I use the services of a Structural Engineer.  Many Home Inspectors find an incorrectly built porch and they immediately recommend having a Structural Engineer look at it because recommending the method to repair it is beyond the scope of a Home Inspectors license.  In my structural design classes at the Arizona State University School of Construction and in the course of designing many custom homes I have learned how to design structural members that meet standard building practices.  This does not mean that I never recommend a Structural Engineer look at something or I try to practice Structural Engineering myself.  It just means that I am able to set the threshold of when a Structural Engineer is needed a little higher

The following pictures are of porch additions that were not done to standard building practices.

This carport uses the fascia as the ledger for the rafters.  The problem with this is that the rafters now rely on the weight of the roof to hold them up.  Most would conclude that the weight of the rafters push down on the top cord of the trusses and therefore push down on the wall.  In reality the wall becomes a teeter totter point that lifts up on the top cord of the truss.  This can cause the top cord of the truss to split or pull up on the ceiling causing cracks in the ceiling.

Carport rafters 

This next picture is the other end of the rafters.  The steel columns sit on a block retaining wall.  They are spaced close together, which is a good thing.  The problem lies in the beam used to hold up the rafters.  All beams should be oriented so that their longest side in cross section is vertical.  If you look closely you can see this 2x sagging at the rafters that are not close to the columns.

carport beam

There are two other issues with this carport.  The rafters are 2x6's at 24" on center.  They span at least 16 feet.  The slope of the carport roof is about ¼" per foot.  This carport is in Globe Arizona.  In the Phoenix area we get snow about once every 100 years.  In Globe they get it once or twice per year.  If you stand back from the front of the carport you can see the bow in the roof.

The home owner had inherited the home when his parents passed away.  When I showed him the bow in the roof he said "No wonder my dad never parked the car under it when it snowed."  Placing the rafters on the top of the wall would have increased the pitch of the roof to allow the snow to melt and run off faster.  Sizing the beam and rafters appropriately would have made this carport much safer. 

In the next photo of a Phoenix home they didn't use the fascia as the ledger.  They bolted the rafters to the ends of the truss top cords.  This is a stronger connection but it still created the teeter totter effect.  The 2x4 rafters are also too small for this patio.

bolted rafters

This is the front porch of the same Phoenix home.  Here they did use the facia as the ledger.  This time they covered it with the plywood.  This also made the porch roof slope too shallow to allow for proper drainage.

porch on fascia

This patio has the beam vertical.  The problem here is that the beam and rafters are undersized.  The full weight of the patio is bearing on the nails.  The post should be cut shorter and the beam should be sitting on top of the post.  The hangers that are designed to connect the posts to the beams also help resist lateral forces.  These nails will not resist any lateral forces.

porch beam

 

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DIY Home Office Gone Wrong

Quite often the decision to hire a design professional is made based on the requirements of the authority having jurisdiction.  The do it yourself weekend warior decides that all of the improvements are inside and not visible to the city therefore getting a permit for the work is not worth it.  In some cases I would agree with them.

In this case; however, the decision not to get aWater heater in office professional opinion almost became fatal and could be if not corrected.  The home owner built a home office inside the garage.  What they failed to take into consideration is that the combustion air vents for the gas water heater are on the oposite side of the garage from the home office.  When the door and window to the office are closed the water heater only has one source of air to burn.  It has to pull air through the vent.  This causes a backdraft.  The smoke stains on the back of the water heater indicate that a backdraft has happened at least once.  The next time it happens it could turn the whole house into a nice little pile of ashes.

Had they spent a little bit of money on a designer and a permit they could have avoided this.Fire damaged water heater

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Master Bath Sabotage

ToiletI turned the water on at this home.  I then went through the home to see if anything had been left on.  To my surprise I found this toilet in the Master bedroom.  Water was pouring onto the floor.  The bowl fill tube and the flapper were both missing.  With the bowl fill tube missing the water hits the lid and runs over the edge of the tank and onto the floor.  With the flapper missing the tank never fills up and shuts the water off.  Just think what would happen if someone turned the water on and didn't go inside to check everything.   I have seen one or the other broken or missing, but never both missing at the same time.  It could be a coincidence, but I doubt it.

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